Oct 15, 2009
Madonna Does ‘Rolling Stone’ Magazine
"I think it’s boring to stay the same. A girl likes to change her look."

Madonna is featured on the cover and in the pages of the new issue of Rolling Stone magazine wherein she talks about (among other things) her early days in the music biz, her divorce from ex-hubby Guy Ritchie and her opinions on Lady Gaga. Here is Maddy‘s new (old) RS coverphoto and some excerpts from her coverstory interview:


In January 1984 Madonna had just one album under her belt when she told American Bandstand’s Dick Clark she had lofty plans: “To rule the world.” Over the past three decades, she has provoked, innovated and inspired; she’s set and broken her own records, most recently wrapping the highest-grossing tour ever by a solo artist with her Sticky & Sweet show. And now that she’s released the two-disc retrospective Celebration, the pop superstar who rarely looks back sat down with Rolling Stone’s Austin Scaggs for a revealing trip through her early days in New York, some of her biggest scandals, and of course, her most massive hits in our new issue, on stands today. Even as a seventh grader in Michigan, Madonna reveals she knew how to push her audience’s buttons. For her first ever performance, “I had my girlfriends paint my body with fluorescent hearts and flowers,” she recalls of a rendition of the Who’s “Baba O’Riley” that left her fellow students speechless. “I wore a pair of shorts and a midriff top, and I just went mad. … I’m sure everyone thought I was insane. That was the beginning of my provocative performances, I guess.” But having innate stage savvy didn’t mean Madonna grew up a wild child. Though she tells Scaggs about her days as a graffiti artist when she was running with Keith Haring and Jean-Michel Basquiat in New York City (her tag: Boy Toy), life was tamer before that. “I was a geek in high school. I didn’t really have a drink until I got divorced for the first time [from Sean Penn] when I was 30,” she admits. ” ‘Geek’ is not a word anyone uses to describe me, except perhaps [Confessions on a Dance Floor producer] Stuart Price, who once said, ‘You know, you’re a nerd at heart, nobody knows it.’ I took it as a compliment.” She credits her first major shift in style — from punky brunette club kid to blonde wedding wonder — to getting dressed and styled for more photo shoots and videos as her career progressed. “I think people put a lot of emphasis on the whole reinvention of my image, and it’s always been a lot less calculated than people think,” she says. ” I think it’s boring to stay the same. A girl likes to change her look.” But if she had to pick her worst fashion moment: “It was the purple lipstick, fluorescent-green sweater combo. … It’s OK, it was the Eighties. It was a bad-hairstyle era. Let’s face it.” But Madonna doesn’t have many musical regrets. She tells Scaggs about writing “Live to Tell” and “Vogue,” returning with a head full of brand-new ideas on Ray of Light and teaming with some of the industry’s biggest hitmakers on Hard Candy. But after all these years, she admits she still can’t sniff out a Number One. “I’ve never been a good judge of what things are going to be huge or not. The songs that I think are the most retarded songs I’ve written, like ‘Cherish’ and ‘Sorry,’ a pretty big hit off my last album, end up being the biggest hits,” she tells RS. ” ‘Into the Groove’ is another song I feel retarded singing, but everybody seems to like it.”

You know, say what you will about Madonna — whether you love her or hate her — you cannot deny that the woman knows what she wants and gets what she wants … no matter what it is that she wants. From the start of her career, her hunger to conquer the world has kept her on point and allowed her to carve out a legendary career. Because she now has everything that she wants, she’s not as hungry anymore and, therefore, isn’t as innovative as she used to be. While I would love for Madonna to be the iconic trendsetter that she is known to be for years to come, I just don’t know that she can really do that anymore … which is why, I think, she is looking to the next generation to take up the reins. After the jump, read some of Madonna‘s comments about Lady Gaga and find out what she thinks of the singer …

“I can see myself in Lady Gaga. In the early part of my career, for sure,” she told the mag. “When I saw her, she didn’t have a lot of money for her production, she’s got holes in her fishnets, and there’s mistakes everywhere. It was kind of a mess, but I can see that she’s got that It factor. It’s nice to see that at a raw stage.” And she appreciated the “Just Dance” singer live, as did Madonna’s oldest child, Lourdes. “I think Lady Gaga is great. When [she and daughter Lourdes] saw her, I actually felt a kind of recognition. I thought, ‘She’s got something,’” the pop star said. “There’s something quirky about her. She’s fearless and funny, and when she spoke to the audience, she sounded intelligent and clever. She’s unique.”

And a few more excerpted quotes from this Rolling Stone interview:

“What can you say? It was a challenging year. I think work saved me, and I’m very grateful that I had work to do. I may have thrown myself off a building,” she told the mag. “Life is an adjustment. It’s different. My sons aren’t with me right now, they’re with their father, and I’m not very comfortable with the idea of my children not living together. There are pros and cons, but I feel good now” … “I wanted to work with Eminem,” she revealed. “I don’t think he wanted to work with me. Maybe he’s shy” … “I was a geek in high school. I didn’t really have a drink until I got divorced for the first time [from Sean Penn] when I was 30,” she said. “‘Geek’ is not a word anyone uses to describe me, except perhaps [‘Confessions on a Dance Floor’ producer] Stuart Price, who once said, ‘You know, you’re a nerd at heart, nobody knows it.’ I took it as a compliment.”

That is some compliment that she paid Lady Gaga … as I’ve said many times, I’m not the biggest Gaga fan primarily because I find her over-the-top “shocking” tactics extremely contrived and banal. I do believe she is a very talented musician and I have HUGE respect for her work to advance equal rights in this country. For me, the jury is still out on Lady Gaga but the fact that Madonna has given her her stamp of approval says a lot. I cannot wait to read the rest of this interview. I’m still solidly on Team Madonna … even if she isn’t the inspirational innovator that she once was, her contributions to pop culture cannot be denied.

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  1. worldgirl says:

    From the looks of things, she can sit back and enjoy her golden years while daughter Lourdes takes up the mantle!
    When she was onstage during the Sticky Sweet Tour..I swear she looked JUST like her Mother during her “Like A Virgin” days!

  2. Paranel says:

    She hasn’t look like this in 80 years. She looks like a pulled too tight old has been.

  3. Mr. Gyllenhaal says:

    I love that picture and love Madge!! She rocks!

  4. Lana says:

    I love Madonna, but she is so desperate to cling on to the star of the moment. First Britney, then Justin, now Gaga. I’m so over her.

  5. nicole says:

    @Paranel – agreed!
    as for the lady gaga comment…i just dont know what to say…i mean gaga is annoying – even her songs…so i feel like madonna is calling herself annyoing lol (which the past few years….lets face it..she kinda has been)

  6. Whitney says:

    If it weren’t for Madonna, there would be no Britney, Pink, Gaga, etc….She paved the way for women in the music industry.

  7. Justin says:

    Love Madonna. She will always be ahead of the game. What matters most for me is the music and she still makes kick ass records. I don’t see it as her passing off a torch, since it’d be like handing it back to herself. Britney and Gaga would be nothing had they not ripped out entire chapters from Madonnas book.

    • @Justin — I love Madonna, love love love her … but I do not believe she is “ahead of the game”. ‘Hard Candy’ was not a great album, in fact, it was one of her worst. Working with Timbaland YEARS after he was hot was a huge misstep for her. I hope her new album will be innovative not another mess of recycled and tired music trends.

  8. worldgirl says:

    It is an odd juxtaposition that someone who claims to be so devoted to a spiritual path of growth and enlightenment can’t seem to let go of her past glory and move on.
    Looking inward and creating her OWN stuff instead of desperately trying to attatch herself to the flavor of the month would be much more dignified.

  9. Monica says:

    Timbaland is still a great producer in my book but I generally prefer when she works with UK producers. Where I think she went wrong was working with Justin Timberlake but I am pretty biased because I can’t stand him. I just think he’s a talentless hack and would be nowhere without Timbaland and Pharrell…and Britney for that matter. I still can’t get over that HE was who inducted Madonna into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame – totally ridiculous.

    I like Lady Gaga a lot actually but I just don’t put her anywhere in the same realm as Madonna, at least not yet. I never really thought it came across as desperate that Madonna hung out with these younger pop stars though. She seems like a real music lover to me and so I always took it as her just being maternal and generous and sweet but again, I am biased.

    Britney to me is the only pop star who even holds a candle to Madonna and that’s only because of the excitement she manages to generate and that overall mystique that she continues to maintain. Their music is so different but she just seems to have been born to be a superstar, much like Madonna. I agree with whoever said that Lourdes might very well be the one to take up the mantle. That little girl is FIERCE!

  10. Kendra says:

    I received my issue of RS yesterday but have yet to read her article. I’m not huge on Madonna anymore, but it looks like an interesting read..

  11. Krissy says:

    I think Madonna’s early career is similar to Lady Gaga, but not because of their stage performances. Madonna NEVER went as far over the edge as Gaga does. However, in Madonna’s early career, she really was the vessel that showed the world what was going on in the New York club scene (which is what Gaga is doing now with her artists Haus of Gaga). I don’t get it when people say Gaga “ripped off” Madonna…their performance style seems so different to me. Vocally Gaga sounds a bit like Madge, but that is it. I think that Madonna is very busines smart, and she has repeatedly found “unknown” producers and writers to give her a fresh appeal. However, I think she has become too dependant on the work of other people. I don’t think she is musically gifted enough to create on her own. Her tone really turns me off, ESPECIALLY quotes like, “Geek’ is not a word anyone uses to describe me”, and how she has treated her former trainer in recent days.

  12. Amy says:

    i totally see her a geek

  13. Mela says:

    I have to believe that Madge is just taking a huge gracious step out there to compliment Gaga since they shared a performance and now Gaga is sort of tied to her career by association. I really hope Gaga can outlast her own devices and become a real artist yet. If I see one more horrifyingly contrived attempt to “shock” people or appear mysterious I’ll just..well I won’t do anything but turn off whatever I’m watching I guess.

    I miss Madonna’s glory days. I respect her early career but I can’t say that anything she’s done in the last few years has particularily thrilled me or seemed that fresh. I think she’s a real icon though. And it’s true…her genius has been aped by many a pop princess. Her legacy can’t be denied.

  14. CHASE says:

    @Lana – I totally agree! Madonna is using every person who is “hot” out there to make her career more relevant. That’s why I believe her and Britney are no longer BFF’s because Britney realized that Madonna was only using her. I believe Britney revived Madonna’s career in 2003 because “American Life” was getting shiteous reviews and it’s Madonna’s lowest selling album to date. I don’t believe GaGa has the “it” factor. If Britney never went through her breakdown, she would have the title Queen of Pop and she would have taken it from Madonna with no problem. Now, she has to work a little bit harder to get it.

  15. Krissy says:

    Mela, I know a lot of people would disagree with me, but I don’t see Gaga as one who is trying to shock. I think she is just having fun, and isn’t afraid to be weird. For example, after being nominated for VMAs she said, “After years of hustle in New York City, where we made our art videos in bars, myself and the Haus of Gaga are honored to receive nine nominations for the 2009 VMAs,”… “All you need is a camcorder, a flashlight and one truly great idea. Thank you, MTV, for being our video flagship, and for supporting this bunch of inspired kids, who love to get wasted and make art together.” I really like the idea of a bunch of people getting together to see where their brainstorming takes them, being unafraid of the consequences of whether it is “cool” or not.

  16. gunnarjet says:

    Lourdes will be the NEXT madonna !!!!!!

    ( she would like become a actress, but at one point,i’m sure she will start to sing.. and then we’ll see the “reborn” of madonna)

  17. anna says:

    I hate Madonna as a person. I really liked her old music, but she sucks as a person. Hate Hate Hate her.

  18. samantha says:

    I love love love Madonna as BOTH a person and a performer! Her older songs are classic. I haven’t listened to much of her new stuff, but when I want to hear vintage Madonna, I’ll listen to “Like a Virgin,” or “Borderline.” Those are two of my favorite songs, among others.

    Madonna is protean, and is very adroit at reading the zeitgeist. She continues to reinvent herself and stay relevant, despite the new crop of singers emerging on the scene.

  19. gemma says:

    Really love the cover. Madonna is a real star. Has something to say,and never compromises. That’s hot!!!

  20. Justin says:

    @Trent- I am aware you are a big Madonna fan! While HC isn’t her best effort I was wondering what you hated about it. There are some really great songs and some mayjah stinkers. We’re around the same age and I’m interested to hear what your favorite M era is. I prefer anything from “Music” on, though I do like her old stuff as well. I have felt she just keeps getting better….are you an 80′s, 90′s, 00′s kinda guy? What’s your “go to” favorite M album? For me it’s “American Life”, the album, not the song. ;)

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