Joss Whedon Declares That Angel Would ‘Kick The Shit’ Out Of Edward Cullen

"There's no Edward Cullunus. He just gets shiny in the sun."
August 6th, 2009

MTV caught up with Joss Whedon, creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, to get his opinion on who he thinks would win in a fight between Angel/Angelus or Edward Cullen of Twilight. Obvs, Joss is gonna root for his own character but I have to agree with him … Angel really would “kick the shit” out of prettyboy Edward:


Over a decade ago there was another vampire phenomenon taking over the psyche of teens everywhere. And that was “Buffy the Vampire Slayer.” The story of a slayer, Buffy, falling in love with a vampire, Angel, became an instant sensation when the show made its debut on the now defunct network, The WB in 1997. So, with “Twilight” mania taking over the world these days, how does “Buffy” creator, Joss Whedon, feel about the franchise? Long story short, he’s cool with it. “I don’t get this whole vampire romance thing. I mean that could never happen. Who would believe that? It seems so stupid. I literally thought that when I created the character if Angel,” he told MTV News. “I thought a vampire romance with a slayer … people are going to laugh me out of the room. They’ll never go for it. Clearly I was wrong. There’s something really timeless about it. I saw ‘Twilight’… there’s something primal about that story. You can’t get away from it. It works like gangbusters.” But, the big question is: Who would win in a fight: Edward Cullen or Angel? “I think Robert Pattinson is really cool. Angel would kick the shit out of him. He’s Angelus,” Whedon said without even flinching. “There’s no Edward Cullunus. He just gets shiny in the sun. Boreanaz would have him down in a heartbeat. No offense, cause he’s hot.”

Sorry Twilighters, Joss is right … in a head to head vampire battle, Angelus would mop the floor with Edward. But, to be honest, it’s all a moot point cuz Buffy would stake his ass first. After the jump, check out video of Joss’s interview with MTV to hear the colorful commentary straight from the horse’s mouth …


LOL! I love Joss. Team Angelus! What do y’all think … who do YOU think would win in a fight? Angelus or Edward?

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64 Responses to “Joss Whedon Declares That Angel Would ‘Kick The Shit’ Out Of Edward Cullen”

  1. nicole Says:

    well clearly angel would win lol…angel wins in all departments.but atleast when edward gets all mad & vamp like…he’s still cute.

  2. schmee Says:

    Please. Even Harmony could kick shiny boy to the curb. (And now I feel really dorky for having though that)

  3. velcrodots Says:

    Even The Count from Seasame St could open a can of whoop @ss on Eddykins!

  4. BoodyNeptune Says:

    A-freaking-men. This is how the fight would go

    Angel: *Goes vamp, grabs sword*
    Edward *Sparkles*

  5. Hannah Says:

    haha, yeah that was a stupid question. Angel all the way.

  6. Ama Says:

    Its funny cause its true. XD Personally I have always liked the ‘old version’ of vampires. They have always been attractive beings, but I mean I think the fact that they are so attractive yet deadly is what made vampires appealing.

    I think its more cruel for a vampire to attack and kill an innocent animal that is minding its own business, and close to being erased anyways. Then killing some psychopath killer, or rapist and such *nod*(not trying to sound like a tree huger – but I mean Edward can hear things thoughts right? So wouldn’t he be able to hear the poor animals thoughts and such before killing them?) But then..most people don’t think animals have thoughts, feelings or souls so..

    Also, in pretty much every vampire tale, those vampires(who did feed of humans) had intimate relations with humans, but it was never so drama filled XD funny stuff.

    So erm yeah, I shall go with Angel and even Spike winning a duel with any of the Twilight vampires.

  7. Tracey Says:

    Everybody in the Buffyverse, with the possible exception of Andrew, could kick Edward’s ass. There is no contest.

  8. Kate M Says:

    I think Joss just challenged Robert Pattinson to face David Boreanaz in a fight (to the death?) I think this would be an awesome pay-per-view event. I want this to be live action, not claymation.

  9. It's Trent, Bitch! Says:

    @Tracey — LMAO!! I bet if you riled up Andrew enough he, too, could get in a few licks ;)

  10. Jadedkitten Says:

    duh!

  11. Cat L Says:

    wow, ive been saying this to all my twilight obsessed friends for a very long time! I dont even consider Edward a vampire since he only fits the blood drinking description, which alot of buffyverse demons do, so Edward could be some random other demon instead of a vampire? cause seriously,, he sparkles and can go into sunlight. Angel is wayy better than Edward in every way IMO.

  12. leanne Says:

    omgomgomg NO NO NO!
    edward cullen all the way!
    edward from the books though, not the movie (he’s depressed in the movie – not good for fighting)

  13. Whitney Says:

    Damn straight he would!!!
    Has anyone else caught themselves asking friends or family where they were when Buffy was on? Some of my friends and family could not believe I loved and watched Buffy when it was on, but I am now finding them loving Twlight. Go figure.

  14. Dayna Says:

    Hellz ya

    Angel/Darla/Dru/Spike would kick the Cullen Clans Ass.

    They are whimpy deer

  15. CHASE Says:

    NO WAY! Edward can go in the sunlight and when Angel is ~sleeping~ in the daytime Edward could just like, I don’t know, go in his tomb/coffin and kill him, right? Or just blind him to death by his glowing that resembles a disco ball in a hot 80’s dance floor. Who knows. Angel is ok but I just love Buffy in general. Buffy would beat both of them down in a heart beat. : )

  16. Haley Says:

    David Boreanaz would kick Robert Pattinson’s ass..no doubt. But if we’re talking the character of Angel and Edward..Edward would snap him in half. Edward is invincible and worst case scenario..he takes the fight into the sunlight – Edward gets all shiney and Angel bursts into flames. Not gonna lie though, Angel is way better looking.

  17. Junebug333 Says:

    ANGEL all the waaaaaaaaaay!!! :D

  18. Jessica Says:

    Woah, I’ve never watched Buffy but that first pic of Angel…while fictional characters can fictionally “kill each other”, that thing ain’t winning any points in the looks department in real life, so uh, Edward for the win…in reality. Just sayin. haha By the way, Edward copied Angel’s haircut??

  19. Illise Says:

    Angel could kick easily edward ass, besides angel is a real vampire ( not literally of course lol ) and edward is just a pretty boy who has fangs, i miss the old kick ass vasmpire movies cause Twilight its just a love story nothing else, nothing compared to The Queen of the Damned, Interview With the Vampire or Dracula

  20. Nai Says:

    Angel would kick Edward Cullen’s ass! Angelus would do even worse things to him! And this coming from a Twilight fan (but I’m Buffy OBSESSED so I might be biased!)

  21. Dana Says:

    I could kick Edward’s ass! (just kidding)

  22. Jacinta Says:

    I LOVE Buffy and I’m a Twilight fan, but I have no qualms about saying that Angel (especially in Angelus form) would totally wreck Edward.

  23. SuziLee Says:

    oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease – Angel FTW!!!! He’s WAY hotter too!!!!!!

  24. aimie Says:

    yeah, i didnt’ watch buffy but i’m thinking that she’d not stake edward. HELLO, he is a good vampire. duh. but i think that emmett would give him a run for his money.

  25. Rock&Republic Says:

    Starting with the fact that Edward can actually go into the sunlight…yeah, like i thought. I’m not impressed by the ugly vampires on Bluffy. Hell, the True Blood vamps are more impressive.

  26. anhimals Says:

    TEAM ANGELUS for sure!!!!!! le sigh

  27. i n f a m o u s l y c o o l Says:

    CHASE, edward can go in the sun, but he doesn’t! he’s to scared someone will see him sparkle. hahahahaha.. lets just remember how many times angel went in the sun and taken a little burning all to kick some ass.

  28. Sara Says:

    OMG, I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard reading comments on here. LMAO @ shmee and Tracey

  29. Melissa Says:

    Um everyone is forgetting that Edward can read people’s minds…he would know what Angel was thinking and always be one step ahead of him. Edward would own Angel!!

  30. Cat L Says:

    @ Melissa, ah, but you can’t read Angel’s mind (in the Buffyverse anyways) since he’s a vampire. Buffy had mind reading powers one time and she couldn’t, and True Blood vamps can’t have their mind’s read either.

  31. CHASE Says:

    @ Cat L – Sometimes Sookie gets little “glimpses” of other vampires’ minds.

  32. Dayna Says:

    I can see it now…..

    Twilight…… Edward comes home from a hard day of being emo. He sees rose petals on the ground, he thinks of his dear Bella. Sulks up the stairs and then he sees Bella laying in a pool of roses on the bed, her neck snapped. With that, a note on the bed…..

    “I killed Gile’s bitch, now I got yours. Suck on those sparkles. Angelus”

    p.s. I hope someone gets this BtVS reference lol

  33. Cat L Says:

    @ Dayna — LOL! he would also nail a wolfy Jacob to a wall on Valentine’s day.

  34. Liza Says:

    @Dayna – AWESOME! LOL. I was going to post something about Angelus! Yours was better. <3 Angel – My first Vampire Love… He could totally kick all those wussy Twilight creatures asses. Oh Buffy – How I miss thee.

  35. Maggie Says:

    David Boreanaz is so hot. Wow.

  36. Cassandra Says:

    Angelus would SO kick Edwards ass, even if he could read his mind. Especially if the match the crazy four (angelus/darla/dru/spike) up against the Cullens. Actually…that’s a fight I would want to see…fan comic anyone!?

  37. Kat Says:

    Even more interesting:
    If Angelus is mopping the floor with Edwards remains…what would happen to poor Eddy if Spike kicked his butt?
    (Or the three of them, as in China, Angelus, Spike and Dru….)

  38. Korpsy Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwM3GvaTRM

    Want to see Buffy vs Edward? Great YouTube mashup with Buffy/Edward showdown.

    Watch it! Whoever made this put a lot of work into it.

  39. Rebecca Says:

    Oh, SO on team Angel! Damn straight would kick Edward’s butt! Edward, actually Twilight in its entirety, has NOTHING on the buffyverse!

  40. Jazz Says:

    @Dayna – LMAO!!

  41. Leesha Says:

    I am a big fan of both. As in watched buffy since it’s premier in 1997 and a fan of the movie before that. I think it would be a good fight actually, especially if Edward could read Angels mind. I do concur that Buffy would be able to kill edward but she wouldn’t be able to stake him. Edwards skin it to hard for that. she would find some other way to get the job done though!

  42. Rebecca Says:

    Edward would clearly win, although I love angel. Edward has his mind reading and super speed, plus he can’t really be staked with his marble skin so yeah…

  43. Shaniqua Says:

    Love this!

  44. Apples v 2 Says:

    i love how edward’s expression changes.

  45. Z Says:

    Dayna, that was awesome!

    Btw, have you all seen the “Buffy Stakes Edward” clip on Youtube? It’s really well done! If not, check it out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwM3GvaTRM or go to youtube and search for buffy stakes edward. Hilarious! :)

  46. Pauline Says:

    I would take Edward Cullen any day over Angel.

  47. joe Says:

    Edward for the Win!!
    Stakes don’t do anything to him, he never sleeps, “can” go out in the sun, and has mind reading capabilities. Plus he never gets ugly face when he’s mad. (sorry Angel)

  48. Dayna Says:

    Finally!!!

    A sane girl who, when a guy talks about watching her sleep, reacts like a normal person. GET OUT

    Buffy was the Chosen One…..the kill Edward

    great vid

  49. Bruce Says:

    Are you all mad?! Edward would demolish Angel. First of all, he’s hard as rock so Buffy couldn’t even kill him whereas Angel could be killed by a silly o stake to the heart. Second, he can go out into the sun which Angel most certainly cannot. And lastly, Edward can read minds…clearly he wins.

  50. Evad Says:

    Edward Cullen doesn’t stand a chance. His body could be made of Adamantium and he’d still lose, because it would take all of 3 seconds for Willow to demolish him or at least disable whatever defense he may or may not have and let Angel (or any other character) tear him apart.

  51. val Says:

    LOVE EDWARD…

  52. Michelle Says:

    True Story. Even though I am a staunch TEAM EDWARD member (pushes lame Team Jacob person out of the way) I absolutely agree that Angel would kick his ass… because seriously it’s freakin Angel… that guy could be the male version of Victoria except he wouldn’t need an army of newborns to get the job done. Joss Whedon is the man.

  53. holly Says:

    lols. edward would just be like :o and angel would just kick the crap out of him. though…… as i am 15 i find rpattz more interesting to look at. boreanaz is lurvely but a little old

  54. yeahandalso Says:

    Let’s be honest here, Edward and Angel would most likely get along and not fight since both are totally pro-human. Angelous, if it came to it, would rip Edward to shreds however and not even blink while doing it…of course we know who can kick his ass all the way to hell, our best girl Buffy

  55. toothandclaw@yahoo.com Says:

    Too all of you pining for the good ol’ vampiric days, there’s hope yet! Check it out:

    Daybreakers Trailer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivnHBNM0_GU

    Thirst Trailer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4AV6kLrKY

  56. toothandclaw@yahoo.com Says:

    Crap. “to” not “too”.

  57. mimi Says:

    ANGEL ANGEL ANGEL!! not only would he kick edward’s ass, angel is the ultimate speciman of male perfection.

  58. hema Says:

    Angel would so kick the shit out of Edward! and also Angel once had the ring of Amara which basically makes any vampire who wears it invincible, to stakes, crosses, sunlight and beheading, so what can Edward do if they have to fight in sunlight, sparkle while Angel kicks his pastey sparkly butt. ahahhaaha! :)
    go team Buffy!!!
    ps. twilight sucks ass

  59. meg Says:

    i am a huge buffy and twilight fan so this is hard! angel would win in a fight i think but edward wins hands down in a looks contest xx

  60. Sharon Says:

    Edward Cullen would beat Angel anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he has amazing speed and the mind-reading thing!!!!!! angel doesnt even have a damn chance!

  61. MickeyMouse Says:

    as a response to the Andrew vs. Edward thing:

    remember guyz…Amderw is 83% more manly now…Edward is about )% manly so….Andrew for the win!

  62. Ritz Says:

    Even Andrew would kick Edward’s ass…
    Angel would kill him like 5 times before Edward hit the ground, I mean a vampire who nailed puppies to walls would kick Edward’s ass in the blink of an eye… (Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Twilight fan as a Buffy fan as an Angel fan, but back in the good old Buffy days there were real vampires! Not sparkling ones -.-)
    GO TEAM ANGELUS 8D

  63. Lenore Says:

    Depends… is this “I’m stupid because I’m around Buffy Summers or Connor” Angel/Angelus?
    But yeah, generally Angel can probably kick Edward’s ass. Get him to fight Spike, that’s a challenge.

  64. Lenore Says:

    Somebody mentioned the Gem of Amara. Quit it, it’s gone, bye-bye.
    Also, someone said Angel was “the ultimate speciman of male perfection”. One, it’s ’specimen’. Two, that is SO James Marsters. Yay, love him on Torchwood, too.
    And they SPARKLE?!?! Why in effin’ hell does someone think that works?!?! “Hey, I think vampires should SPARKLE!!!” sign of a deranged mind right there. And not in a fun way. More like Saffron, or Niska, or Alpha…
    Whoever said Harmony could take Edward, don’t be embarrassed… it’s just the truth!
    By the way, why the hell does everyone think that hairstyle is doing anyone any favours?

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