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	<title>Comments on: Two US Journalists Sentenced To 12 Years Hard Labor In North Korea</title>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim Jong Il IS an animal.  They torture and starve people whose RELATIVES don&#039;t agree with his policies. Just because they are RELATED to them.   How the hell could you justify that in any way shape or form?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim Jong Il IS an animal.  They torture and starve people whose RELATIVES don&#8217;t agree with his policies. Just because they are RELATED to them.   How the hell could you justify that in any way shape or form?</p>
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		<title>By: kk</title>
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		<dc:creator>kk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sounds about time for a private op a la Mersk Alabama</description>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get where incubi and amy&#039;s coming from. They&#039;re just being diplomatic in their comment. Hopefully people will see where they&#039;re coming from, rather than immediately, ignorantly assume she&#039;s rooting for NK and their shameful actions. My guess is, probably not.

My thing how ever is.. as a South Korean, I HATE how we get grouped in with North Korea sometimes. I also hate when people, in reponse to my being Korean, and when I specify that I&#039;m from the South, the question is: &#039;is that the normal one or the crazy one?&#039;, and their faces always change from a cautious, suspicious one to a relaxed one when I (dryly) reply &#039;the normal one&#039;. I mean, sure I&#039;m not fan of the North&#039;s actions, policies etc either, but at least get your international knowledge right.

And I guess what prompted me to comment is that even in this entry, Trent had said &quot;...perhaps one of the Asian governments (China, Japan) in the area...&quot; as if South Korea isn&#039;t a separate Asian government on its own from the strict, somewhat unrealistic North Korea. That we just get lumped together. And I&#039;m SURE someone&#039;s bound to jump up here and say &#039;wth, you&#039;re just nitpicking!!&#039; and I&#039;m 99.99999% sure Trent didn&#039;t mean anything by it when he wrote it: but that&#039;s my point. I sometimes feel like SK automatically, unconsciously gets grouped in as a &#039;baddy&#039; just because 1. NK is &#039;evil&#039; and shares the second half of the name, and historically the entire nation, with us, and 2. people&#039;s ignorance. And you may think I&#039;m nitpicking, but hey, Ally&#039;s comment up there is another example - she&#039;s worried about her brother&#039;s well-being because he&#039;s in South Korea. You may say it&#039;s because they&#039;re joined together, but - and It&#039;s only an assumption, but - I bet if he was in China, which is also joined to NK, she probably wouldn&#039;t have said that or been so worried. I just think it&#039;s ignorant of people to make such a big deal out of political situations, happenings about certain situations without having any basic knowledge to start with.

You may think I&#039;m nitpicking, but from my side of things, as a Korean from the SOUTH, I&#039;m just a bit tired of non-Koreans, often Europeans, who crack jokes about how I&#039;m gonna blow them up with my nuclear bombs if people piss me off, just because my ethnicity happens to be Korean. Am I being too sensitive? Maybe. But the first couple of times, I didn&#039;t mind dryly laughing it off. But when people keep bringing that sh.t up just to &#039;jokingly&#039; rile me up? The humour starts to wear thin after a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get where incubi and amy&#8217;s coming from. They&#8217;re just being diplomatic in their comment. Hopefully people will see where they&#8217;re coming from, rather than immediately, ignorantly assume she&#8217;s rooting for NK and their shameful actions. My guess is, probably not.</p>
<p>My thing how ever is.. as a South Korean, I HATE how we get grouped in with North Korea sometimes. I also hate when people, in reponse to my being Korean, and when I specify that I&#8217;m from the South, the question is: &#8216;is that the normal one or the crazy one?&#8217;, and their faces always change from a cautious, suspicious one to a relaxed one when I (dryly) reply &#8216;the normal one&#8217;. I mean, sure I&#8217;m not fan of the North&#8217;s actions, policies etc either, but at least get your international knowledge right.</p>
<p>And I guess what prompted me to comment is that even in this entry, Trent had said &#8220;&#8230;perhaps one of the Asian governments (China, Japan) in the area&#8230;&#8221; as if South Korea isn&#8217;t a separate Asian government on its own from the strict, somewhat unrealistic North Korea. That we just get lumped together. And I&#8217;m SURE someone&#8217;s bound to jump up here and say &#8216;wth, you&#8217;re just nitpicking!!&#8217; and I&#8217;m 99.99999% sure Trent didn&#8217;t mean anything by it when he wrote it: but that&#8217;s my point. I sometimes feel like SK automatically, unconsciously gets grouped in as a &#8216;baddy&#8217; just because 1. NK is &#8216;evil&#8217; and shares the second half of the name, and historically the entire nation, with us, and 2. people&#8217;s ignorance. And you may think I&#8217;m nitpicking, but hey, Ally&#8217;s comment up there is another example &#8211; she&#8217;s worried about her brother&#8217;s well-being because he&#8217;s in South Korea. You may say it&#8217;s because they&#8217;re joined together, but &#8211; and It&#8217;s only an assumption, but &#8211; I bet if he was in China, which is also joined to NK, she probably wouldn&#8217;t have said that or been so worried. I just think it&#8217;s ignorant of people to make such a big deal out of political situations, happenings about certain situations without having any basic knowledge to start with.</p>
<p>You may think I&#8217;m nitpicking, but from my side of things, as a Korean from the SOUTH, I&#8217;m just a bit tired of non-Koreans, often Europeans, who crack jokes about how I&#8217;m gonna blow them up with my nuclear bombs if people piss me off, just because my ethnicity happens to be Korean. Am I being too sensitive? Maybe. But the first couple of times, I didn&#8217;t mind dryly laughing it off. But when people keep bringing that sh.t up just to &#8216;jokingly&#8217; rile me up? The humour starts to wear thin after a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Razz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 03:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s lisa ling&#039;s sister. i&#039;m pretty sure lisa ling&#039;s NCG program inside North Korea had something to do with the prison sentence, she portrayed NK as a very mind-controlled, fear ladened country.

that doesn&#039;t bode well, i suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s lisa ling&#8217;s sister. i&#8217;m pretty sure lisa ling&#8217;s NCG program inside North Korea had something to do with the prison sentence, she portrayed NK as a very mind-controlled, fear ladened country.</p>
<p>that doesn&#8217;t bode well, i suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to post something that I know people won&#039;t be happy about... but hear it goes:

While I completely disagree with NK&#039;s ruling and think their government is absolutely corrupt and despicable, I think it was also irresponsible for the two journalists to cross the border (or even go near the border without knowing the exact borderlines). Would NK have tested their nuclear weapons if they didn&#039;t capture these two? Maybe. Maybe not. At the end of the day, even if my career is more important than my life, I wouldn&#039;t jeopardize my country&#039;s - and even the world&#039;s - diplomacy and safety by venturing out to the border like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to post something that I know people won&#8217;t be happy about&#8230; but hear it goes:</p>
<p>While I completely disagree with NK&#8217;s ruling and think their government is absolutely corrupt and despicable, I think it was also irresponsible for the two journalists to cross the border (or even go near the border without knowing the exact borderlines). Would NK have tested their nuclear weapons if they didn&#8217;t capture these two? Maybe. Maybe not. At the end of the day, even if my career is more important than my life, I wouldn&#8217;t jeopardize my country&#8217;s &#8211; and even the world&#8217;s &#8211; diplomacy and safety by venturing out to the border like that.</p>
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		<title>By: tatiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God this is so horrible.  Everyone pray for these women and their safe return. :(</description>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the sentiment that if you are in another countries land you have to play by their rules.  But this is hardly the case.  They did not go into North Korea and start a murder spree or encourage riots or anything bad.  The article even says they don&#039;t know if they actually wandered over.  Most countries will kick people out if they don&#039;t want you there.  They deport you, not stick you into a labor camp.  Who knows what conditions they will have and how long they will live.  If they did do something wrong N Korea should be open with the United States and not have made their trial so secretive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the sentiment that if you are in another countries land you have to play by their rules.  But this is hardly the case.  They did not go into North Korea and start a murder spree or encourage riots or anything bad.  The article even says they don&#8217;t know if they actually wandered over.  Most countries will kick people out if they don&#8217;t want you there.  They deport you, not stick you into a labor camp.  Who knows what conditions they will have and how long they will live.  If they did do something wrong N Korea should be open with the United States and not have made their trial so secretive.</p>
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		<title>By: incubi</title>
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		<dc:creator>incubi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trent, no matter what the sentence is in the US, don&#039;t forget they are on foreign soil. and if you&#039;re a guest in someones house, you need to play by their rules. Not saying that the NK goverment or ruling is just, but especially seeying these ladies were there professionally they ought to know the rules of the game. i could understand if there were naive toerist getting lost or what not.. but by going there on report, snooping around in a communist closed regime, you know the risks involved by putting yourself on the line. just because they have cute little faces and/or are american doesn&#039;t mean they don&#039;t have to respect the law. used for political gain or not. 
i wonder how many people calling NK ridiculous, &#039;animals&#039; (really?), etc are crying the loudest about closing your own borders for illegal crossing immigrants? or how about the people in gitmo, posing as a security treat to the US? is that not the same or worse? and wasn&#039;t the punishment in the US for espionage capital punishment of life in prison not so long ago? (or stil, maybe?). excuse the spelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trent, no matter what the sentence is in the US, don&#8217;t forget they are on foreign soil. and if you&#8217;re a guest in someones house, you need to play by their rules. Not saying that the NK goverment or ruling is just, but especially seeying these ladies were there professionally they ought to know the rules of the game. i could understand if there were naive toerist getting lost or what not.. but by going there on report, snooping around in a communist closed regime, you know the risks involved by putting yourself on the line. just because they have cute little faces and/or are american doesn&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t have to respect the law. used for political gain or not.<br />
i wonder how many people calling NK ridiculous, &#8216;animals&#8217; (really?), etc are crying the loudest about closing your own borders for illegal crossing immigrants? or how about the people in gitmo, posing as a security treat to the US? is that not the same or worse? and wasn&#8217;t the punishment in the US for espionage capital punishment of life in prison not so long ago? (or stil, maybe?). excuse the spelling.</p>
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		<title>By: the mole</title>
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		<dc:creator>the mole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ally - There&#039;s no need to worry about your brother. South Korea is a safe country, probably even safer than the States. 

@Tracy - Do you mean that the president of North Korea and his army are disgusting? I hope you&#039;re not claiming that every single North Korean is &quot;disgusting&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ally &#8211; There&#8217;s no need to worry about your brother. South Korea is a safe country, probably even safer than the States. </p>
<p>@Tracy &#8211; Do you mean that the president of North Korea and his army are disgusting? I hope you&#8217;re not claiming that every single North Korean is &#8220;disgusting&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>North Korea is fucking disgusting.  They are animals.</description>
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