Comments on: National Day Of Protest Against Marriage Discrimination

By: It's Trent, Bitch!

It's Trent, Bitch! — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:51:41 +0000

BTW, Danielle — why is it disrespectful “of the men who were in the original picture”? Where they not fighting for gays as well as straights? And, just out of curiosity, how do you know that “the men who were in the original picture” weren’t gay themselves? From whence comes your place of authority to speak for “those men in the original picture”?

By: It's Trent, Bitch!

It's Trent, Bitch! — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:44:51 +0000

Hatred, ignorance and discrimination is a real enemy. It will be defeated. You just wait and see :)

By: Danielle

Danielle — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:42:42 +0000

Elle, Kent, and whoever else disagreed with me,

I honestly don’t care what you think of my comment-Elle, have you never seen the picture from Iwo Jima of the soldiers climbing the battered hill and working together to raise the flag? Yeah, that’s what this picture is meant to look like. Like the gay community has struggled like our men and women in uniform have. I don’t think so. Sure they’re in a “war” (whatever), but they’re not risking their lives for all of America.

Seriously, California has spoken. You’re not going to change it. Could we, as a nation protest the presidency and expect people to say, “Oh, ok, we made an oops when we voted, let’s change it to make you happy.” Ummm, no.

The picture is wrong, it’s stupid, and it is disrespectful of the men who were in the original picture and were actually fighting a real enemy.

By: Diana

Diana — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:04:16 +0000

To the people who say that the people of California voted as a majority to pass Prop. 8- at one point, the majority of the people in this country believed in slavery, separate but equal, and that interracial marriage was wrong. Did it make those things right? NO. The protests will hopefully open the eyes of people who are undecided on this issue.
Also, I’m sure not everyone is shouting “bigot and homophobe”. As it happens in many cases, the few bad apples seem to get more spotlight than the thousands of people who are peacefully protesting.
Finally, I see nothing wrong with the picture. That image of the soldiers has always represented the fight of the American people and our LGBT community is just as American as you and I. Thanks Trent for posting this, I’m going to try and find a place to protest in St. Louis! – Diana

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politikly.com | politics and world news — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:12:01 +0000

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By: elle

elle — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:20:21 +0000

actually, to put more clarification on the subject of “offending the soldiers” by the photo, it is actually very far away from anything regarding or pertaining to the service of the people.
if you take the time to actually look at the image, it is merely a photo of men putting a gay flag in place. they are, in fact, NOT wearing any uniforms or hats that may suggest they are a part of the service. also, the flag is clearly a rainbow colored flag, which is just representing the right we have as people to freely express ourselves. and i think it clearly represents a lot. honestly, i think it has nothing to do regarding the military or any service. simply the service of helping the LGBT community.

By: SR Wright

SR Wright — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:17:22 +0000

I am LGBT 1st. An American citizen 2nd. A Marine 3rd. No military disrespect with the photo, because LGBT citizens are serving Now and always have! So shut your pie hole if you are negative.

By: Joanne

Joanne — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:30:47 +0000

That is not the end of it … It is blatantly UNFAIR to allow a straight majority to decide what they think is best for a minority of people (in one state). This is a CIVIL RIGHTS issue.

By: hapacalgirl

hapacalgirl — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:30:38 +0000

I completely agree with Eve. The fact is whether you agree with prop 8 or not the will of the people of california voted to pass it and that should of been the end of it. What right does the court have to overturn what the majority of the california population voted to pass. I mean there are always going to be laws that people do not like which is why we have the voting process in the first place. And I agree all this aggression will most likely make it much more difficult to change the minds of people in the future since they will feel that you are forcing your lifestyle on them and will respond with the same opposition against you that you have shown them. the last prop passed with 60+% compared to 52% passage this time around, people are changing but you have to give them the time to change, aggression never gets anywhere especially when all the violent actions in regard to prop 8 have been coming from the NO on Prop 8 side, it doesn’t really help what you are trying to support. Also not everyone who supported prop 8 are bigots/homophobes/relgious freaks. I happen to be an atheist and have both gay relatives and a gay aunt and many gay friends and I have no issues with the gay lifestyle but I feel that the definition of marriage is between a man and woman and therefore supported prop 8 . I also spent most of my life in two cities with large gay populations (san diego and SF) and went to one of the most liberal colleges in the country , so I have an open mind but stand firmly in my belief that traditional marriage is between a man and woman and as long as laws that pertain to the rights of marriages and civil union/domestic partnerships are the same (tax breaks, spousal rights, etc) I do not think the government has a right to change the definition of a word/institution that is tied so strongly in religion.

By: Eve

Eve — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:40:49 +0000

Why can’t everyone who is against Prop 8 just accept the will of the people? The citizens of California have spoken. Don’t be hostile and angry. Protest peacefully. The more hatred that comes from the left towards the Christian community and even to those who aren’t Christian who don’t want to Gay marriage, the more difficult it will be to persuade some to change their mind. Keep calling us bigots and homophobes, that will go over real well. And why won’t you guys protest in front of black church’s? They had a 70% voter turnout for Prop 8.If you’re going to protest church’s, protest all of them.

By: mimi

mimi — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:45:39 +0000

good luck with your protesting. ive been saddened to see the discrimination against the gay/tg community. fundamentally, we are all people and essentially we all have human rights – unfortunately, its restrictions to access these rights that need to be overcome. as a christian myself, im disgusted to see people using their christian faith as a justification for prejudice and discrimination, and putting themselves on a moral high horse because they fear something different.
i hope prop 8 is overturned, so stay strong and dont let the man silence you!

By: Paz

Paz — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:19:47 +0000

The picture is a bit stereotypical, but aight.
I dont see how it disrespects the military though.

By: xerx

xerx — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:18:10 +0000

“YOU ARE DISGUSTING! I can’t believe you posted that picture! total disrespect for the military! YOU SUCK! I agree with Daniel, you are taking it to far! One more reason why not to support your cause!”

As the daughter of a captain in the US Uniformed Services, I can safely say that my mother works hard every day for the benefit of all Americans, no matter their race, gender, religion, age, or sexual orientation, as do her coworkers. This image rightfully shows what our American soldiers fight for every single day, all over the world: freedom from oppression (which even includes free speech for people with differing opinions!), human rights, and justice. Suggesting that those in the military might be offended by the very rights they fight for every day is crass and just a bit misguided.

Thank you Trent for posting your political opinions. I enjoy reading your take on both the gossip and the more serious issues of the day.

By: Jezz

Jezz — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:25:55 +0000

YOU ARE DISGUSTING! I can’t believe you posted that picture! total disrespect for the military! YOU SUCK! I agree with Daniel, you are taking it to far! One more reason why not to support your cause!

By: Joanne

Joanne — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:00:00 +0000

This has really fired up the gay community all around the world. We have been polite. We have listened to others points of view (and fears). We have tried to enlighten people – show them we are just everyday people (many of whom who have children). We hoped the public would make the compassionate decision on the day (even though they should never have been allowed to decide our ‘fate’). They didn’t. Now we are going to fight and protest (peacefully) and show our numbers. We are all around you … in all walks of life!!

By: Kent

Kent — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:52:01 +0000

If she “never even said she wasn’t against what you’re fighting for”, then there’s a chance that she or anyone else might actually be against it. Which is why I wrote what I wrote and I thank you for helping to reiterate my point ;-)

By: Whitt

Whitt — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:32:29 +0000

Kent-
For one Danielle never even said she wasn’t against what you’re fighting for, she said she was against the picture. GET OVER IT! It’s her opinion deal with it & let it go, the picture isn’t going to change, I think there are more than enough comments on this page to tell you that she is outnumbered.

By: I Need My Fix

I Need My Fix — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:09:55 +0000

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By: Kent

Kent — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:55:18 +0000

Actually please allow me to re-phrase that a bit … I don’t “hate” to enlighten you at all – in fact, I fully appreciate this and any opportunity to help you and other like-minded souls understand that you are the same as I am, as is the next person you see on the street, talk to on the phone, or watch on the news. We are all equal so get over it finally.

By: Kent

Kent — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:45:32 +0000

Danielle, I hate to enlighten you but it is actually you who needs a slap in the face. Not to mention a lesson in basic symbolism.
It is divisive attitudes such as the one you’ve taken the time to write down that have created the need not only for symbolic images such as the one here, but also the need for the protests which are occurring over Prop 8.
Little do you seem to know that every time you are in the company of a gay man or woman, you are in the company of a soldier (literally or symbolically) because until you and those who think like you come to realize that everyone is equal, gay people will have to continue to fight for what are actually basic human rights.
I would love to see the art you create when your basic human rights are removed.

By: Froggie2004

Froggie2004 — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:24:45 +0000

It felt great to get out and exercise my rights as an American on Friday night (We went to Dolores Park in SF). As straight people we understand this is a human rights issue, not a gay/straight issue. Please get involved if you can!

By: It's Trent, Bitch!

It's Trent, Bitch! — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:06:58 +0000

The “Find Your Protest” link has been updated to http://jointheimpact.wetpaint.com/ GLAD to have your support, Matt!!! :)

By: lou

lou — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:06:43 +0000

i love the image but why are they all men? it would have been nice to see a few women in there too.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:01:22 +0000

Oh and the site that helps you find your protest rally is horrid. I clicked on Atlanta and I was directed to google maps with the search term “city and Atlanta” 18 results were given and there is no mention of times. No wonder the gays are losing.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:59:47 +0000

Please will someone let them marry so I can read gossip on here. I’m so over Trent’s stint into politics.