Comments on: The ‘Knight’ Is Darkest Before The Dawn

By: E-Rock

E-Rock — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:25:19 +0000

The Joker Didnt Specifically say where each of them were he just said one is at this adress and the other at this.. no names were included

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:27:23 +0000

TRENT IS AN UGLY FUCK!!!! everything makes trent disoriented. ha.

By: patrick

patrick — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:10:30 +0000

kudos to the makers Dark Knight for their record breaking opening weekend… it’s no wonder there’s talk of another one coming out ASAP

By: Tommy

Tommy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:17:47 +0000

I totally agree with the part of: Not being sucked into the movie.. I realized I was watching something rather than being a part of something.. Im gonna watch it again and give it another chance..

By: jane

jane — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:31:07 +0000

yeah, i agree with Jen too about the Rachel/Harvey situation…

plus, if Batman changed his mind and decided to choose and save Harvey, wouldn’t Batman and Gordon end up at the same place??? which is where Rachel was..

well, if he did changed his mind, he could’ve saved Rachel since the Joker switched addresses… she could’ve been the one who is alive….

By: kerry

kerry — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:23:52 +0000

i totally agree w/you, jen.

By: Jen

Jen — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:15:00 +0000

I have to say I knew this movie would be amazing, but still there are no words to describe it. Heath was out of this world. I kept turning to my friend during the movie saying, it’s just not even him. He portrayed the Joker so well. Aaah, I just yeah I loved it. I loved him, Christian Bale as always, everyone. After reading all of the comments about Batman saving Harvey and not Rachel, everyone has the same confusion. But, Gordon didn’t ask Batman who should I save? He asked Batman Where are you going? And Batman yelled Rachel. I think that’s how the dialogue went. So we know that the Joker mixed up the addresses on purpose. He knew that saving Dent would not only make Dent go nuts but also Batman cuz he even said at one point in the movie, I saw the way you looked at her.(the joker to batman) So that’s my take. And I just want to add that some critics were trying to say that this movie wouldn’t have done as well if Heath Ledger was still alive. But that is just not true. Before he passed away people were already raving about his turn as the joker. Either way he was an amazing actor, and this movie just proves what great things would have come from him.

By: Mandy

Mandy — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:02:08 +0000

Thank you Molly for bringing up Gary Oldman. He was amazing (as always). The most AMAZING underrated actor of our time who deserves our cheers and applause! Heath was obviously incredible, but Gary (who had the most screen time over everyone in it) stole it for me. :)

By: Chrissy

Chrissy — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:58:23 +0000

What if instead of Batman saying that he was going to “Save Rachel”, he was actually instructing Gordon to go “Save Rachel”. Am I the only one who thinks it could’ve been interpreted as an order for Gordon, instead of stating what he was going to do himself?

By: kerry

kerry — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:13:28 +0000

although i can understand where the previous commenters viewed batman’s decision as the right choice for gotham, i don’t think it was intentional. ONLY because he told gordon he was going to get rachel. i think the joker (which, by the way, was brillantly played by heath ledger) gave him the wrong address knowing he would attempt to save rachel and not harvey. why else wouldn’t he have told gordon he was going to get harvey, in the hopes that maybe gordon could reach rachel in time?

everyone’s so quick to jump on trent’s review! maaaan. he’s a celebrity gossip blogger, not a professional film critic. it’s just his opinion, which i believe he should be entitled to voice since this is HIS blog. lol :)

imo, the movie was great — a tad long, but well thought out and portrayed. i went in thinking the hype over heath’s performance was only because of his tragic and untimely death. i am glad to say i was wrong, and he deserves every single one of the rave reviews. it’s heartbreaking that he’s no longer with us to be able to get the credit (in person) that the role is giving him.

By: It's Trent, Bitch!

It's Trent, Bitch! — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:39:02 +0000

negative reviews? i merely stated that the disjointed nature of some of the scenes made the storyline disorienting for me … and maybe that was the point that Nolan was trying to make? i don’t recall saying a negative thing about Heath, his performance was pretty perfect for me. opinions aren’t necessarily a negation, they’re merely observations. i think i was quite clear that I loved the film.

By: Eli

Eli — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:27:38 +0000

Loved it. Trent, it seems like you gave more negative reviews that positive ones?!?!!?!….I do agree with you in that at the beggining, the movie wasnt really capturing my attention, but after a few minutes, I was hooked to it till the end. Heath completely stole the movie, and his performance was INCREDIBLE.

By: SF2btrue

SF2btrue — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:31:40 +0000

SPOILER ALERT What about the scene with Lucius Fox and and Bruce Wayne reviewing the new Bat suit?When Bruce asks “Will it protect against dogs?’ Lucius says, “Rottweilers, chihuahuas…even cats.” Could this be setting the stage for the next instillation and a properly developed and cast Cat Woman?

By: Megan

Megan — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:07:52 +0000

When the joker tells batman the addresses of Harvey and Rachel the new commisioner (i forget his name) asks Batman who he is going to save. Batman says “Rachel” and the commisioner goes to find Harvey. The reason they both don’t end up in the same place is because the joker lied about the addresses and switched them. The joker was thinking batman will choose who he wants to save and then show up and it be the other person. Batman wanted to save Rachel so the joker him that her address was really where Harvey was. Therefore disappointing Batman. Sorry if this is confusing I have no better way of explaining it.

By: Kathryn

Kathryn — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:45:49 +0000

I really loved the movie. I personally thought that it was obvious that Batman was going to save Rachel because he yells to Lt. Gordon ‘you go get Dent’ (or something similar to that). I was also waiting for him to explain that to Dent near the end like some others have mentioned, but I think the fact that he didn’t mention it probably had something to do with how crazy Dent was near the end. He wouldn’t have believed him anyway so why should Batman go into specifics. He basically tells him that the Joker made the decision on who was saved because he wanted to prove that he could bring down even the purest person to his level. That part didn’t confuse me as much as some other people, but at the same time maybe it was intentionally confusing so it would get everyone talking.
You certainly can’t talk about the film without mentioning Heath Ledgers performance. All I can say was that is was truly amazing. A work of art even. He did such an amazing job that you were so engrossed in the character that you didn’t even really notice who the actor was. You didn’t think ‘Heath Ledger as the Joker’ while watching it you just thought of the Joker as a completely separate entity. It was truly amazing.
I absolutely loved the entire film and can’t wait to see it again. And on a totally shallow note, Christian Bale, is HOT! He looks amazing in that bat suit, and those lips! Swoon!

By: Heather

Heather — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:52:52 +0000

I loved the movie. Peroid. But I agree about being confused over who he chose. But I think he actually thought he was saving Rachel but upon seeing Harvey the good guy in him couldn’t just leave him. Plus I think the Joker knew what would happen. He never made plans but it always went with how he wanted it. With Harvey deranged from his loss the Joker made his move and made a butterfly effect by pointing out to Harvey why Rachel was dead. The dirty cops. I really think that Batman thought he was saving Rachel. He was too upset after to not believe that he wanted to save the woman he loved. But I loved how Maggie portrayed Rachel. I seriously don’t think that Katie Holmes could have done as great of a job as Maggie did in this movie.

By: Ashley

Ashley — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:01:29 +0000

Loved every minute of the film! 2 cents…

I too am not convinced that Rachel is dead. For a while during the film I was waiting for her to come back … and it didn’t seem like she would have left the film choosing Dent over Wayne. We’ll see…

No one has commented on one of the best, albeit subtle, scenes in the film. The Joker is next to Dent’s hospital bed ranting about chaos and “the plan” and suddenly the mad man is the one making sense. Brilliant. An antiwar (and antiBush) statement weaved in seamlessly, especially when he says something to the effect, “a truck full of soldiers will blow up tomorrow but no one will think twice because it’s all ‘part of the plan’.” He makes his point, that , in the eyes of society, all lives are not equal. In the end, we see maybe Gotham will try to change that with the last scene with the boats.

Great action, great actors, and substantial dialog. Couldn’t ask for more.

By: nc

nc — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:04:02 +0000

Batman chose Harvey because he is doing what’s best for Gotham, not what he wants. He always puts Gotham before himself. And the Joker’s message in the film was chaos, turning order against order to show disorder. His message was to show in the very end, people can have some evil in them. Like with the hospital, the guy in the car and truck were going to kill an innocent man. The Joker was just trying to exploit the corruption that could be caused on their own. Heath Ledger was amazing. They shouldn’t avoid nominating someone because they’re in a comic book franchise, rather look at how any actor can portray a character and their story no matter the film they’re in.

P.S. Thought it was funny that at the party for Dent the Joker ripped off part of the shrimp then threw it off, then he pretended to chew it. Same with the wine.

By: Alfred

Alfred — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:01:58 +0000

I thought it was a good movie. The theme and consistent are very consistent throughout. Solid acting from Ledger and Oldman. Eckhart was a good surprise. The movie is gripping throughout the 2.5 hours.

However, I did feel like something was missing, as the story unfolded. Maybe it’s too fast paced. I also didn’t get the switching of Harvey and Rachel, after so much discussion. Plainly, when Batman opened the door to see Harvey, I thought Joker must have intended to trick him.

I like how the end is – the contrast between the Dark Knight and White Knight. Personally, I don’t think Rachel and Two-Face are dead.

By: AmyM

AmyM — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:42:59 +0000

this movie kicked aaaaaaass!!! WOOOOOOT!!! it was so twisted and dark and awesome! not confusing at all. everyone was so good! and that opening scene moving toward the office building windows, middle of the day….. everyone in the theatre waiting with bated breath! soo sweet!
it kicked ass! i can’t wait to see it again.
and that alfred has a story from “when i was younger” before he was with the Wayne family?! totally coool! eeeeeee! soo good!
okay i’m done.
so good.

By: Verodemort

Verodemort — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:02:13 +0000

I haven’t been this blown away by a movie in a long time! It was just amazing! Everything, the acting was superb (Gary, Christian, HEATH, even Aaron!), the action, the story line, the directing, everything!! I loved that the movie itself wasn’t gory, but it was terrifyingly shocking (when Batman drops Maroni and CRUNCH goes his legs! and the Joker’s “dissapearing trick”!), I thought the humor was great, and I loved not knowing what the heck was coming next! Great movie fun, I would happily pay $10 and watch it again! The bar has most def been raise to a new level, it will be hard to beat this one!

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:54:36 +0000

your right, it doesnt make him a moron but watch the film one more time and then BOTH of you can see that he was shocked!!! you saying “i dont remember” really doesnt do you any good. it just makes him a bad blogger/critic if one is not even sure of what they are talking about especially when others read it.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2008.....8knig.html
he knows what he is talking about. plus, heath does deserve a nomination.

By: Denise

Denise — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:40:49 +0000

I don’t get people saying that Rachel isn’t dead — didn’t you see the explosion right behind her big head? I also don’t get people who are saying that Batman was going to save Harvey. When Commissioner Gordon asks him who he’s going after, he clearly says “Rachel” and hops on the Batpod (which rocked, by the way!). Anyway, I LOVED this movie and am definitely going to see it again. All the hype over Ledger’s performance was so well-deserved. He was fabulous and owned the Joker.

By: Ariel

Ariel — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:08:36 +0000

I think the movie was confusing on the Harvey/Rachel switch – only because of Batman’s reaction when he opened the door and saw Harvey. I don’t remember him showing right there and then, shock that it wasn’t Rachel. I know he had to act fast to save Harvey, but if the Joker told him where Rachel was, and Batman said he was going to save Rachel, you would think he’d be sort of surprised to see Harvey instead.

Andrew – what Trent said isn’t fact, it is opinion, just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make Trent a moron! Grow up.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:22:57 +0000

you should read my post again. i acknowledged that he said it was good. its just the reasons he said for not liking the film are ridiculous. the moron didnt even understand some of the most basic things of the movie, like it was obvious the joker was messing with batman. CLEARLY, he would of chosen rachel over dent, no matter if a white knight was needed.